Oh Bob, how
could I ever forget that life-changing day we encountered
the Floridians spreading the word of God in all of his
wonder... ah who am I kidding, it was the biggest load
of crap I've ever seen! I haven't seen something that
horrible come from Florida since November of 2000. Never
before had I truly understood the meaning of God-fearing
before that day I saw the frightening things that came
from this bunch of highschoolers. The blank stares of
the brainwashed made me quiver with fear while the pantomime
made me chuckle at the sheer absurdity of it all.
As the troupe
finished their set with a "comedy" skit (something about
a male pregnancy, if I recall correctly), I realized
my opportunity had arisen to launch a peaceful protest,
a 'sit in' of sorts, by planting on my lap one of the
very flyers that led me to Satan, err..I mean Bob, in
the first place. It
wasn't long before good 'ol Mikey tapped me on the shoulder
and said, "Umm excuse me, do you mind telling me
why you have that?" to which I responded that I
was merely expressing my views as well.
soon finished their skit and a began to gather around
us, baffled by our lack of love and obsession for Jesus
Christ almighty and throwing questions at us such as, "Well if there's no God where did we come from?" and "If there's no God what happens when you die?" and
the old fall back, "What happened to you that you don't
believe in God?" I tried my best to explain to them
the utter absurdity of it all and how I strayed from
the path of the good Catholic school girl that I used
to be (that's right folks, a REAL LIFE catholic school
on quietly but soon I became overwhelmed by their empty
eyes and parroted questions so I passed the ball off
to him in all of his infinite wisdom. I watched Bob
with starry eyes (yes, I had to fight the urge to make
out with him right then and there) as he shot down argument
after argument from these kids and their pastor *ahem*
remember the glow of pride in the eyes of the youth
leader as he watched his young followers face Satan's
ugliness, even as Bob continued to make a mockery of
their feeble attempts at denying the truth.
time for preaching was soon up and they had to leave,
knowing that they had not saved us and we would be doomed
to burn in hell for all of eternity. Oh well, I think
I'll have more fun down there anyway.
* * * * * *
3 years later...
My name is Jeff. A group I was with was feautured on your Amazing Strangers page once as "The Floridian Pantomime Christian Brigade Performers". I don't know if you remember us or not. We were doing some skits in Union Park in June of 2004. You posted us one your web site. I wasn't able to find the page by navigating your site but I have the link to refresh your memory. I was the one that was wearing the huge comfort fit pants and hawaiian shirt.
The reason I'm e-mailing you is because I have since then pretty much given up on religious beliefs, and right now I'm really not sure what I follow. This is mainly due to getting screwed by the church I was going to. It really made me think about what they were treaching compared to what they were doing. Plus just a lot of the ideas that Christianity offers. It brought me to the point where I am trying to untangle what I believe because it was fed to me and what I truly believe. I wanted to get your personal views on atheism and what made you change, because it seems you use to follow the Bible because you know quite a bit about it. Correct me if I'm wrong. Also I will say that after we met and I viewed your web site I was somewhat intrigued by what you do and the leaflets you hand out. So, my other question is if it would be possible to go on an outing with you one weekend when you go. I meant to add earlier in the e-mail that I recently just moved to Jersey in June on a job transfer.
Well I hope to hear back from you. Thanks.
more to come...
Bob I do not hate you
Bob, I do not hate you, I was the youth
pastor at Union Park from Florida, doing
the drama skits. Some of my youth and a
couple of my leaders talked to you.
were not rude to them, but obviously not
receptive. They just wanted you to know
the truth, and they came to you in love.
You know as well as me that they did not
treat you with hate. Our group did not preach
hate; you know this you were there. Bob
I will be praying for you, as I am sure
many others do. I am not your enemy, nor
do I hate you, this may be called hate mail,
but you know that my group and I did not
come to you in hate. We only want to share
the love of Christ. Bob, Christ really changed
Christ, I was a man of hate, all of which he has
removed from me, my marriage and family is 100%
better and turned around through Christ. Relationships
with other family members have also been reconciled
through Christ, such as with my dad and me. I
could listed thousands of things that God has
done for me, and some of them were truly miraculous.
you for time, and not your enemy.
In Christ, Bob
but one question for you Robert: Why do you hate
me? Why do you make me your enemy?
I'm just messin' with you. Where did you come
up with the idea that I think you hated me? I
don't believe that in any point of our conversation
I said anything like, "Why do you hate me?" or
"I know you guys all hate me but..."
that I thought about you was that you were a bit
silly with your drama skits, and that your method
of spreading The Word was only alienating people.
It hardly made you appear respectable, knowledgeable
or rational. I believe that I told you this when
we had our discussion. Was I behaving as if I
thought you hated me?
do you expect people to be receptive to you if
you're jumping to conclusions about what they
think and feel? Is this how you approach people?
"I do not hate you even though you think that
I do." Does making yourself the victim guilt people
into listening to you? Is that the lesson you
learned from Jesus?
you like to know how I really think of you? It's
in the exact same way that you yourself feel about
someone who worships a tiki, the sun, a cow, or
David Koresh. It's no different than the feelings
you have for those folks. You think that they
are confused, uneducated and flaky. That is how
I feel about you.
think that the good things that happen in your
life are attributed to God and the bad things
to Satan. You think that they both are specifically
in battle over your soul while you try and go
about living your life. My theory is much less
self-centered and delusional. I think that that's
just life. You know, its ups and downs. The regular
process of events. Sometimes things are good and
sometimes they are bad. That's it! No spirits
or supreme beings. No ultimate war in the heavens
over my soul. Just life.
you for time, and not your enemy.
In Logic, Bob
Bob, how are you doing, thank you for your response.
We apparently had a miscommunication. The reason
that I thought you thought we hated you was because
of your website, not from our meeting, I am sorry
about that. Going back to your website, the section
for people to respond to you is called hate mail
and you must admit that your approach to Christianity
comes across a bit hateful. You have a dress up
doll of yourself for people to take avenge on,
this is not even mentioning the Jesus dress up
magnets. You came up up with this idea, not me.
You can see how I may have been confused about
the hate thing because of your website. At the
park you were very respectful to me and my group.
You were not dressed up like Satan, with your
unholy Catholic girls harassing us. I do thank
you for that. Bob you claim to be atheist, yet
you have a strong resentment, or should I say
it appears you you have a strong resentment toward
Christ. The majority of your website attacks Him
and Christianity. I mean you appear to have a
interest in Satan too Bob, who you claim you do
not believe in. You dress up like him(Why?). That
does not appear as a atheist statement. Their
is very little science on your site, and very
little mention of your thoughts toward other beliefs,
just a lot attacks against Christ.
I would like to continue to correspond with you,
if you do not mind. I would also like to send
you some scientific tapes by some of the leading
scientist in the world, with tons of scientific
evidence for creation and God. All that I ask
is that you watch them with a open mind, and if
you could send them back to me. If you can not
send them back, keep them. You seem like a very
intelligent guy, and this challenge should be
right up your alley. What do you have to lose?
If you you are willing to do this please send
me a address to where you would like me to send
so you do not think this is some kind of trick,
my address is XXXXXXXXXX. Bob thank for your time,
and I hopefully look forward to talking to you,
as intelligent adults.
of the "hate" you see on my site, I don't see
it as that. What I see is your observations being
knee-jerk and overly sensitive. You seemed to
have missed the humor in it all. My "attacks"
on Christ are all very childish (as you can see)
and hardly relevant to Him as a person (dressing
up to look silly, making Him look like a stooge,
etc.). These are not the product of hatred. I'm
making Jesus human again, just as He was some
2000 years ago. He's not the miracle working,
superhuman, Son of a Supreme Being as legend would
have you believe. The fact that people still buy
into those tales despite so much evidence and
logic against them is what I mock and make fun
of. You yourself know that these are unbelievable
stories. Labeling me as someone who hates (instead
of assuming that I'm shining light onto the tall
tales) is your way of skirting the point. I know
you're not trying to trick me, I just think your
social skills are all fucked up and you don't
even realize your own methods.
hate mail on my site is mostly just that. There
are definitely people who hate me (or who they
think I am) who write in letters, and I post them.
I know that there are those Christians who do
not hate me, even love me (with their own definition
of "love" without knowing someone). I added the
subheading "Complaint Dept." because that's really
what it is, everyone complaining about what I
think and what I've done. So yeah - Hate Mail.
I don't take it personally, or very seriously,
as all hate mail should be regarded.
I dress up as Satan. Why? Well, mostly because
I think it's cool. The first time I dressed up
in the outfit was Halloween 2002, and it got such
a strong reaction that I couldn't resist making
it a reoccurring character. You see, these are
characters you take very very seriously, I on
the other hand, do not.
playing with this superstitious nonsense that
so many adults have completely succumbed to. I
think that fucking with it exposes how so many
religious people are anxious to believe without
question or forethought, and this is exactly why
course dressing up as Satan is an atheist statement!
It sure isn't a Christian statement; devaluing
such a dreadful entity without giving the Prince
of Darkness the respect he is due as the arch
nemesis of God. It sure isn't a devil worshipper's
statement. A devil worshipper would never reduce
his god to that of a clown in a tuxedo. An atheist
however, places no such value on these characters
so therefore he can dress up as Satan for fun,
and in doing so expresses his own disbelief. Frightening
the superstitious wackos is just an added bonus.
I also see it as just being really really funny.
C'mon! Satan skipping around town handing out
GOD IS FAKE fliers to everybody? Promoting Jesus
Dress Up? Even you have to admit that that's a
funny concept! It's all a joke, as it should be.
It's the sentiment of an atheist, in my opinion.
gladly watch your video as open minded as I can,
but I will not lie, I have never been so positive
about anything as I am about there being no God.
When you said "some of the leading scientist in
the world" I laughed out loud. I am fully aware
that there are scientists who believe in Jesus
Christ and their goal is to somehow prove Creationism,
while in the same note denounce science because
most evidence proves otherwise. I am anxious to
see this "TONS" of evidence.
was never sent, so here's the letter from one of the kids.
We ran into each other at Union Square Park
Just wondering if you are "Normal Bob Smith" why
do you dress up like Satan thats not very normal
but on a serious note what made you get started
on this and what are you trying to accomplish
by doing this.
The world is in a horrible place
because of people like you telling people there
isn't a higher power when you know there is u
are just mad at him for some reason when he gave
you the very breathe you are breathing right now
to read this and if you want to talk to me more
write me back and I was the one of the group that
first talked to you that day in the park of 7/15/04
we were the group performing in front of Abe
Mike! I suppose that my "Normal" description is meant
to be kinda sarcastic. You know, here I am dressing
up as Satan runnin' around in a tuxedo and I'm calling
myself "Normal Bob!" Ha ha ha! But on a more serious
to conclusions quite so quickly about me Mike (even
though it is tempting to make the knee-jerk reaction
to spare any effort in thought). Believe it or not I
really do believe that there is no God. No kiddin'!
I believe that the fantasy of God exists, but
I am absolutely sure that that's all God is: Fantasy.
an immature teenager might have the I-hate-God-therefore-He-doesn't-exist-ha-ha-on-God
angst, but I am a grown adult, Mickey. I'd like nothing
more than to have an eternity in heaven and a God to
pray to when I need help. And the last thing I'd do
is test the God I believed in by teasing His dead Son
and mocking His sacrifice on a website.
I'm older I realize that true belief isn't something
you have to talk yourself into and force yourself to
believe no matter how unbelievable it sounds. True belief
is when you know it's true because all the evidence
points towards it being true and even though it isn't
the answer you want there's no denying that it's exactly
what you believe. That's what atheism is for me. An
undeniable ugly truth that I could no longer avoid.
I found that
believing in spirits, eternal paradise, Satan, talking
animals and magical gardens was nice as a child but
as I grew older it began to fuck with my head. You don't
know yet what that's like, but for me it wasn't pleasant.
I had to take full responsibility for my life and make
it happen all by myself. It was a painful and difficult
time for me and it annoys me when you tell me that I
know God is real and I'm just mad at Him. Your thoughtless
assumption is the absolute opposite of what you should
be doing if you're trying to open up the lines of communication
with somebody. It's clear that you learned a lot of
your techniques from your youth pastor, Robert Leko.
He told me what I thought as well! He told me that I
think you hate me and that we're enemies.
got a lot to learn. Figuring out that God is fake is
the least of your worries. Sharpen those social skills