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The
journey into the bottomless pit of hate mail continues.
As
always, their emails will be in blue
while mine are in black and
white.
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I
would like to take this moment to clarify some things about the
Jesus
Dress Up refrigerator magnets.

First
let me say that they're on the other side of the world being produced
right now. I hate how far away I am from them and I'm as impatient
as you (more so even). For everybody that purchased a copy I assure
you that they will be arriving soon.
Second,
they're going to be great! The place where they're being produced
in Hong Kong (I apologize for mistakenly saying Japan earlier) does
incredible work. I've seen samples of the toys they've produced
for Disney and Pepsi, and that combined with the colorful artwork
I've designed means it is definitely going to be a good looking,
high quality product I assure you.
Please
be patient. I guarantee that anybody who purchases a copy will receive
it. I'm dealing with a very reputable company who does quality work,
but I've been told 6 to 8 weeks production time, and I'll be seeing
the prototype this month (February 2003).
I can
already tell that I am going to sell out. Of course I would have
loved to have gotten a larger printing done but presently I could
not afford such a large investment. So buy your copy today because
I will eliminate the
store page when they are gone.
I will
keep you all informed as to their progress on a regular basis.
Now let's
move onto some veiwer mail... from somebody who refused to send
a picture of herselves.
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I was wondering,
what do you believe in? Do you believe that when we die that
we just get erased from existence? Do you believe we reincarnate?
Do you believe we become ghosts?
Personally I believe
in science energy can not be created or destroyed so I believe
that we will just move into another form of energy our body
decomposes and becomes part of the earth and all that is around
us. Death for me is just a death of what we perceive life
to be, and how we fit our egos into the picture. I just wanted
to get your viewpoint on this, you seem to be an intelligent
individual and I like to see how others view our existence.
Tori Ward
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Dear
Tori,
All
logic, all sense and everything that has proved itself true to me
in my life has convinced me that when people die it's over and done
with.
I do
not believe in reincarnation or ghosts. Many people grasp onto the
catch phrase "energy cannot be destroyed" in hopes that this somehow
means we do not truly die. A body dies. You didn't exist 100 years
ago and you will not exist 100 years from now. Any energy that wasn't
spent holding onto your last few breaths of life will be buried
in the ground and eaten by worms.
My feeling
is that if one of those worms finds a tasty energy-filled section
of my body to feed off of that it's hardly another earthly existence
beginning for me. It is our egos that can not fathom no longer existing
and this is what makes it so goddamn true.
Thank
you for your question.
Bob
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website is messed up and your going to hell for it. |
Subject: WOW!!!!
omg you actually
have the nerve to do somthing like this. This website is messed
up and your going to hell for it. I'm not a very religous
person i dont go to church but even i wouldnt do something
as messed up as this
Charles Nessmith
Nessmith1@cox.net
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Just out of curiosity,
are you going to Hell for your self-proclaimed half-assed
religious beliefs and churchlessness?
I'm always interested
in the requirements people set for themselves to gain entry
into Heaven.
Bob
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| I
have no idea why you e-mailed me but go to hell bastard
of satan!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
here is an idea
bob! fuck you! You self absorbed asshole! I have no idea why
you e-mailed me but go to hell bastard of satan!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Charles Nessmith
Nessmith1@cox.net
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Um, I emailed you
because I was replying to the email you sent me. Duh.
I also emailed
you in hopes of getting some sort of answer to my questions.
Listen, we both
know I'm doomed to everlasting hell fire for the sins I've
committed here on planet Earth, so let's move on. Do you actually
see yourself destined for eternal paradise after this email
you've just sent to me? It's a fascinating scenario; one where
you can type out these electronic messages to a complete stranger
then at some point in the future find yourself lounging infinitely
in Heaven's bliss.
Is that your reality?
Bob
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| If
you're interested in learning more about Christainity,
check
it out, which an excellent online community
for this sort of thing. Go ahead and introduce yourself,
if you apologize, you'll be forgiven |
Look, I value a
sense of humor as much as the next guy. But, as a Christain,
I need to draw the line here. Insulting my religon may be
amusing to you, but if you have any sense of consideration,
you'll realize that many others will not find that funny.
God forgave all of those who crucified him, and you'll be
forgiven too if you accept Him. If you're interested in learning
more about Christainity, check
it out, which an excellent online community for
this sort of thing. Go ahead and introduce yourself, if you
apologize, you'll be forgiven.
We'd also appreciate
you take your site down, but if you don't wish to do so, then
atleast add a disclaimer before the viewer has the chance
of viewing your site's content.
Or, perhaps, we'll
see a satandressup.com? =P
-Paul9
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I went and visited
that Live Journal message board you had suggested to me. In
my opinion this is a collection of people who have heard nothing
other than the Bible's teachings therefore have no new interesting
ideas or useful exchanges occurring at all. Their ignorance
shows itself in their praises to God for getting paid sick
days and their fathers buying them ponies. I see confused
kids trying to figure out how to feel God and make sense of
the nonsense, and I reflect back upon the confusion I felt
that eventually woke me up from the madness.
I would venture
to guess that a majority of these people (who you want me
to apologize to) fear walking alone in the city after dark,
have never had any other options presented to them, laugh
at unfunny parts in television shows, and think atheism means
hating God.
Inviting me to
come apologize to the group sounds enchanting but it also
insults my intelligence a great deal. Do you think that I
am ashamed of what I've made and am so spineless that I'd
let a message board community dictate my art?
Perhaps, Paul,
my site is more than just supposed to be funny? Maybe I posted
jesusdressup.com on the Internet to express how strongly I
feel about my atheist beliefs? Maybe I was raised a Christian,
grew up and out of the fairy tales and realized the foolishness
I was buying into, so now I'm attempting to show others that
worshipping ANY human god (no matter how nice He was) is a
foolish thing to do.
I am not sorry
for my site and your beliefs are no more sane than those of
Marshall Applewhite. I think that you're teaching people foolishness
and I think that that's a bad thing to do.
Bob
Feel free to post this on your boards if you wish.
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your goal was truely to show the world as it is to religous
people, perhaps a short essay of explanation may be better
at achieving your goal |
I see what you
mean by the people in that community. I'm not nearly as devout
as most of them, but I actually repect them for that. I was
raised Catholic and put into Catholic school from six to eighth
grade (I'm in 9th grade now) and I had a miserable time. None
of my "friends" liked me (they were a bunch of fucking backstabbers,
but enh), the teachers scared me with the prospect of me being
sent to hell, and other fun things. I stopped believing in
God for awhile, thinking it was all made up crap, until I
realized that Catholics aren't like all Christains, and that
it's possible to live a Christain life without fearing hellfire
24/7. I remember telling my family before that I didn't believe
in God anymore. Recently, I told my Mom that I didn't approve
of the Catholic Church anymore. Both times I was laughed at.
I don't care.
I don't want to
turn this into a conversation about me, but what I'm saying
is that I also grew up Christain, and I didn't like it. I
saw plenty of "Christains" at Catholic school that were everything
but, unless a teacher, priest, or nun were watching (then
they were "such wonderful young men and women!"). There are
plenty of Christains who are totally undeservingof the title.
Maybe I don't deserve to call myself a Christain. I do know,
however, that many of the people on that community are some
of the most deserving of being called Christain. So what if
they're niave (sp?)? God said that the only way to enter the
kingdom of heaven if you are like a child. Sometimes I'm tempted
to laugh at their silliness, but I see that if I'm ever going
to become a true Christain, I'll have to accept everyone.
And it's hard.
Which is why I'd
expect some repect from you for me and my beliefs. I appreicate
the civil nature of your response, and the fact that you even
responded. If you value your website as art, that's fine.
Just please, add a disclaimer on a splash screen, or even
on top of the page. Most athiests I know online and in real
life (and I know a good deal) are very moralistic people,
and would atleast respect others by doing so.
Do you truely
find comfort in upsetting others? Do you think your opening
their eyes, and showing them the way our world really is?
Do you think you're teaching them a lesson for their own good?
Really, both of your websites are presented in a very immature
fashion, and I don't think you'll do much more besides entertain
the non-Christains and offend the believers. If your goal
was truely to show the world as it is to religous people,
perhaps a short essay of explanation may be better at achieving
your goal.
Always good to
talk to someone. <*/RANT>
Respectfully,
-Paul9
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Paul,
Fact of the matter is, I do not respect your beliefs. I feel
that a belief in almighty super beings, miracle-working spawns
of God and the countless D&D adventures in the Bible are all
complete and utter nonsense. I think that believing it makes
you an extremely gullible person and I do not respect people
who I see as being so catastrophically gullible.
The reason that
I say and do all of this is because I think you are very very
wrong and that I am obviously right. It's really just that
simple. I do not say it to hurt you and others. I say it because
I can't believe how blind you're being, how little you've
really thought it through and also because I think it's a
bad thing to believe nonsense.
Adding a disclaimer
splash screen sounds like an apology to me. I am not at all
apologetic for my beliefs or to people who are upset by them.
I have written many essays on my beliefs, most of which are
in response to people who've written me about how much they
hate me and my site. Holding you in my arms and coddling you
does nothing to make you think... in fact, that is exactly
how you've found yourself in the "Catastrophically Gullible"
category that you (and others like you) fall into. If this
upsets you and others then that means you might actually think
a little. I believe that if any Catholic or Christian person
actually sits down and really thinks about what it is that
they're being asked to believe... well, then that's a good
thing.
Expect nothing
but blunt, honest answers to your questions, and if you don't
want answers don't ask me questions.
Bob
The Upsetter
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ARE YOU A DUMB
ASS?
Dan Crusan
DRCRUSAN@bigfoot.k12.wi.us
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I'm the wrong guy
to ask. I'm quite biased.
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