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I've
still been enjoying the hustle on St. Marks. Taking the word to
the streets is a satisfaction unlike anything the Internet could
offer. There's just nothin' like sayin' "God is fake god
is fake, there was no talking snake" into the ears of a
family of tourists wearing matching khaki shorts and eating cotten
candy.
The squatters, skaters and punks circle back for more while the
Britnies and Barbies pretend to be righteous, throwing them to the
ground. I totally enjoy the routine of it all, and Venessa loves
to watch.
I
was even told how to say God is fake in Japanese -"Commi
soma eni." But my pronunciation probably offends those
who understand it. Or maybe it's just insulting because I say it
to every Asian who walks by. 
I've even gotten good at slippin' the flyer into people's shopping
bags when they pass by. Is that wrong?
There have been more than a few unexpected reactions worth a mention:
*
Holding-hands-gay-men have been hatin' the fliers! I was shocked!
That's surprising, right?
*
Because most lesbians love 'em.
*
Except for poser lesbians (suburban girls who hold hands because
they think bein' a lesbian on St. Marks is cool). Those "lesbians"
still get offended and give me dirty looks. Their behavior amuses
me greatly.
*
Junkies hate the flyers too! Isn't that interesting? I mean, they're
shooting dope into their eyeballs and at the same time sensitive
about what's bein' said about God. I dunno... just fun facts.
*
Esthetic Jews take the flyer without comment, read the cover and
put it into their pocket. It's consistent. I like that very much.
* Krishnas are also very polite. They see the humor in it and shake
their heads when they realize what I'm saying. Very polite every
time. Props to the Krishnas.
*
High school church youth groups are my favorites! They take whatever
you tell them to take and they scare so easily! I'm sure they think
they're on the verge of being swindled. It probably doesn't help
that I'm also mumblin "smoke, smoke, smoke, smoke"
under my breath when I hand it to them.
* Couples are fun because many times one of them hates it and the
other laughs. I enjoy thinking that I might be inflicting wounds
in what was once a thriving relationship.
*
I was shocked when the local Gravers (combination of Raver & Goth.
Inspired by both the Trenchcoat Mafia and Matrix. Listens to Type-O
Negative & ICP) gave me attitude and professed that God was in
fact FOR REAL !
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think that this is because they're basically Sunday schoolers
who've found an all-inclusive way to |
Sample Gravers |
rebel
without straying into anything too outrageous. My feeling is that
the Gravers are today what Heavy Metalers were back in the 80s.
* And not surprisingly, the worst attitude comes from drunk white
frat guys. They, for some reason, get all religious when they've
got 2 dozen beers in 'em and insist that "Jesus was a cool
dude!" and continue by adding "So you think we
all just came from monkeys?!"
There's little you can do for these lost souls outside of repeating
"Godza zero nodda hero Godza zero nodda hero Godza zero
nodda hero..." 200 times until they get confused and stumble
away into the darkness of another sports bar.
Download
your own God is Fake campaign here>>
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| “Are
you aware that Jesus predicted he would rise from the
dead?” |
Bob,
You said of the death of Jesus:
"Yes, but
then He tricked us and came back to life. He's a liar for
doing that. What kind of worthless sacrifice is that?"
Are you aware that
Jesus predicted he would rise from the dead?
So you believe
that the universe came about without the aid of a creator.
How, Bob, do you explain the beauty, complexity, and design
in nature?
David Schmiedeberg
lytnin88@sbcglobal.net
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| “I
as a Bible-believeing Christian do not have a problem
with this belief, and it is not, as I stated, inconsistent
with Scripture.” |
Bob,
In a response to one of your "hate mail" messages, you stated:
"You're
missing my point about the dinosaurs. I was simply trying
to illustrate that the evidence dinosaurs existed millions
of years ago strongly suggests that the Bible may have inconsistencies,
that's all."
The Bible does
not state that the Earth and all life on it were created just
a few thousand years ago (although some Christians believe
this to be the case). The Universe may well be billions of
years old. I as a Bible-believeing Christian do not have a
problem with this belief, and it is not, as I stated, inconsistent
with Scripture.
David Schmiedeberg
lytnin88@sbcglobal.net
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Oh David, yes,
I knew that. I believe my emphasis was suppose to be more
on the lack of any sacrifice once He raised from the dead.
And beyond that I hoped to put even more emphasis on
the silly outrageousness of a God-man raising from the dead
then floating up into heaven... sandals, robe, tooth decay
and all. Those scenarios amuse me a great deal.
You see, I believe
that as life evolves it gets more complex and in some cases
more beautiful. But I would also argue there are things that
are not so beautiful which you seem to fail to attribute to
God; like heaps of poop baking in a desert sun, muddy slimy
swamps pulsating with foul life forms mutated by their own
perverted habits, yellowy sea foam glazing a shore of rotting
Alewives and even a blood-soaked vulcher head burrowing through
the carcass of a skinned ostrich. It only seems like it's
all pigtails and garden snails because those sunsets make
better selling postcards.
Now as far as your
liberal translation of the bible I would argue that the inconsistencies
lay within the "7 day creation of the universe" quote with
not a single mention of the 150 million year reign of the
dinosaur between "God created the earth" and "God created
man."
I'm sure your "argument"
will be that you do not have a problem with that inconsistency.
However, I would counter that by suggesting that the imbeciles
who wrote the bible didn't have the archeological technology
we have today and had no idea their make-believe tale of where
we came from would be so easily debunked a couple thousand
years later.
Get with the times
David. Science teaches us things, and learning is good. There's
no point in struggling to prove the bible because you just
can't do it... unless you have no problem with inconsistencies.
Then you're fine.
Bob
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| “Actually,
there is a certain beauty in "heaps of poop baking in
a desert sun."” |
Oh
David, yes, I knew that. I believe my emphasis was suppose
to be more on the lack of any sacrifice once He raised from
the dead.
Wasn't giving his
life enough of a sacrifice, Bob?
And
beyond that I hoped to put even more emphasis on the silly
outrageousness of a God-man raising from the dead then floating
up into heaven... sandals, robe, tooth decay and all. Those
scenarios amuse me a great deal. You see, I believe that as
life evolves it gets more complex and in some cases more beautiful.
But I would also argue there are things that are not so beautiful
which you fail to also attribute to God; like heaps of poop
baking in a desert sun,
Actually, there
is a certain beauty in "heaps of poop baking in a desert sun."
That waste material eventually decomposes and provides nourishment
for plants. Nature (unlike man sometimes) cleans up after
itself.
muddy
slimy swamps pulsating with foul life forms mutated by their
own perverted habits, yellowy sea foam glazing a shore of
rotting Ailwives and even a blood-soaked vulcher head burrowing
through the carcass of a skinned ostrich. It only seems like
it's all pigtails and garden snails because those sunsets
make better selling postcards.
I will grant you,
Bob, that not all of nature is beautiful. At one time the
earth and everything in it was perfect, but because of man's
sin, ugliness entered into God's creation. God, however, will
restore the state of perfection in the earth.
Now
as far as your liberal translation of the bible I would argue
that the inconsistencies lay within the "7 day creation of
the universe" quote with not a single mention of the 150 billion
year reign of the dinosaur between "God created the earth"
and "God created man."
Why do you see
this as an inconsistency, Bob? The Bible is not a science
text, it's a guidebook that is designed to show the current
race of people on the earth how to live. There may well have
been other races of people (and dinosaurs) on the earth between
"God created the earth" and "God created man," but we don't
really need to know about this in order to live a life pleasing
to God. It's not really the intent of the Bible to delve into
what kind of life was present on earth before Adam and Eve.
I'm
sure your "argument" will be that you do not have a problem
with that inconsistency. However, I would counter that by
suggesting that the imbeciles who wrote the bible didn't have
the archeological technology we have today and had no idea
their make-believe tale of where we came from would be so
easily debunked a couple thousand years later.
Speaking of archeology
Bob, did you know that hundreds of archeological discoveries
in and around the Holy Land corroborate the historical events,
people, and places mentioned in the Bible?
Get
with the times David. Science teaches us things, and learning
is good. There's no point in struggling to prove the bible
because you just can't do it... unless you have no problem
with inconsistencies. Then you're fine.
Sorry it took
so long for me to respond, Bob. I'm praying for you. And Jesus
does love you, even though you mock him.
David Schmiedeberg
lytnin88@sbcglobal.net
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Hello David,
It seems that you
have missed several of my points despite how thorough I was
with my questions and statements. I actually like it when
this happens because then I get to explain myself even further
which drives my point home even better. Then the people who
read these letters see not only how a believer's brain cares
not for logic, facts and reason but it also exposes more of
the strange excuses for the inconsistencies.
For instance, I've
always been amused by the notion that the reason uglinesses
like shores of rotting Alewives, blood-soaked vulture heads
and stinky yellow sea foam exist is a direct result of mankind's
sins. In other words, there's a belief that the lie an 8 year
old tells a school teacher or Bill Clinton's affair has a
direct impact on the weather and is the reason why there are
visually-ugly things. Like if man had never sinned then lions
wouldn't have to kill baby gazelles to feed their young and
there'd be no more tornados. This is an actual Christian belief!
It's these terrific ideas that fascinate me to no end!
Another great example
is how you're telling me in one paragraph that archeology
proves the bible all over the place, then you say that the
bible is not facts, it's just a guidebook and God had no intentions
of accurately explaining things. He's just telling neat stories
to teach us lessons.
Examining the thought process of a mind in denial is both
fascinating and educational for everyone who's reading.
I would like to
declare that Jesus' life is not enough of a sacrifice if He's
just gonna get it back again a few days later, and THEN go
straight to heaven! It's no different than someone who gives
$10,000 to a charity then gets it all back a few days later
from the charity he gave it to, THEN gets a million dollars
just a short time later! Very little sacrifice. I remain unimpressed.
I've got more respect
for the guy who has to spend eternity in hell because he dared
not believe in stories of nonsense. Now that's a fucking sacrifice
David. Eternal pain for stepping forward with doubt equals
hero.
And by the way,
I am not simply mocking Jesus. I mock your whole entire belief
system.
Bob
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| “You
obviously have some amount of faith or you wouldn't be
defending your view so viciously. ” |
I'm not concerned
with whether or not this response gets onto your website...I
stumbled onto it for some unknown reason- I certainly wasn't
looking for info on why to or how to hate Jesus!!! I love
Jesus with all of my heart, soul, mind and strength- why because
He loved me first, 2000 years ago, was willing to die on the
cross for me (and you, too-believe it or not)! The Bible teaches
that the Lord uses everyone to bring about His will. I believe
the Lord is using you to show others that evil and wickedness
surely exists...it's obvious you have so much hate in your
heart and believe me, that's natural- the human nature is
corrupt and unless a person recognizes how evil they are and
then turns from the evil, they doom themselves to eternal
punishment because they choose to deny God's offer of salvation.
From God's Word
of Truth, the Bible, Romans 8:5-8, "Those who live according
to the sinful nature have their minds set on what that nature
desires; but those who live in accordance with the Spirit
have their minds set on what the Spirit desires. The mind
of sinful man is death, but the mind controlled by the Spirit
is life and peace; the sinful mind is hostile to God. It doesnot
submit to God's law, nor can it do so. Those controlled by
the sinful nature cannot please God."
Our hope is that Jesus promised to save us by giving us the
Holy Spirit to replace the condemned human nature...Romans
8:9-11, "You, however, are controlled not by the sinful
nature but by the Spirit, if the Spirit of God lives in you.
And if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he does
not belong to Christ. But if Christ is in you, your body is
dead because of sin, yet your spirit is alive because of righteousness.
And if the Spirit of him who raised Jesus from the dead is
living in you, he who raised Christ from the dead will also
give life to your mortal bodies through his Spirit, who lives
in you."
This is not some weird thing- those who don't have Christ's
goodness, have the devil's wickedness. Do you believe that?
You obviously have some amount of faith or you wouldn't be
defending your view so viciously.
As you continue on
in life, I pray you remember that Evil controls a person, but
deceives a person into believing they are in control! In the
New Testament, in 1 John 5:19, "We know that we are children
of God, and that the whole world is under the control of the
evil one."
| If
you think you have mastered 'cruelty', you have no idea
how cruel YOUR master is! You seem to think God is your
enemy- No, He is your only hope! Satan is the one who
has confused and blinded you- he wants you to be condemned
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Think of this: (and
I'm breaking it down- making it so simple a child or teenager
could understand it)God is good, and, well, the devil is known
for being evil...ok, who do you REALLY want to serve, the One
who tells us to love others, have a pure heart, OR satan, the
one who was the first to rebel against God, the one is was a
liar from the beginning, the one who loves evil, strife, hatred,
the one who will mock and laugh in your face when you meet Him
in hell? Truly, does it even make sense at all to say, "I want
to be evil, not good"; "I want to lead others to hell, not heaven."
???
The Bible teaches
about spiritual blindness and your site has done nothing but
increase my faith in the message of Jesus!!! FROM GOD'S WORD,
John 14:16-17 Jesus said, "And I will ask the Father, and
he will give you another Counselor to be with you forever--
the Spirit of truth. The world cannot accept him, because
it neither sees him nor knows him. But you know him, for he
lives with you and will be in you."
He was speaking of the Holy Spirit, who I received into my
life 2 years ago. My faith was not strong then and all I said
was, "If you are real God, help me." But once I received the
witness of the Holy Spirit- Praise the Lord, my life has been
redeemed! You see, we are all born into sin and our human
nature is set against God. A few years ago, I might have found
your site humorous- but not now. I cried when I saw it- Jesus
does not deserve to be mocked. He did nothing wrong, he simply
told people to honor God by following Him and not following
after the ways of satan. Jesus suffered death for us and has
suffered persecution and rejection ever since because people
don't want to turn from evil- they want to attack Him and
make fun of Him. Can you imagine how He must feel- have you
ever been made fun of, beaten, rejected??? Would you love
that person? believe it or not, Jesus would...if they sincerely
were sorry. It's tough for us to understand how much He loves
us. I understand why you are so sceptical about the Lord-
no one truly understands the Lord until they have been born
again and received the Holy Spirit.
I pray God will humble
you and that you will repent of your sin. I see your site and
I think of the man who wrote nearly half of the New testament,
Paul- he hated Christ and His followers so much, that he was
having them killed!!! But once the Lord got hold of him, he
had to change and he became one of the greatest witnesses for
Christ. this is my prayer for you. If you are willing, God can
turn your heart around and you can use that same passion you
have to serve the devil and serve God instead- ASK GOD IF HE
IS REAL and He will reveal Himself to you...the prophet Jeremiah
said, seek God with all your heart and you will find Him. Ask
God to forgive you of your sins and pray that He deliver you
from the control of satan, there is probably a lot of demonic
activity in your life and YOU NEED GOD'S PROTECTION- don't
fear God, fear satan. God loves you, satan hates you- he hates
you more than you seem to hate Jesus- satan hates you so much
that he has turned your heart away from your Precious Saviour,
Jesus Christ. Bible says the spiritual battle takes
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in our mind and maybe you have been filled with thoughts
against Christ, maybe some hypocritical Christians let
you down, or maybe satan used people that you should have
been able to trust- but they hurt you. |
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Whatever happened,
there's time for you to be restored to having a wonderful relationship
with God. God knows everything that has happened to you- He
knows you better than you know yourself and He is willing to
Help and give you more love and peace in your life than you
could ever imagine! If you have been misinformed and believe
that God is unfair, remember that God is a righteous Judge-
each person will be judged fairly and in the end, it will be
our own actions that will either find us saved or guilty.
1 John 3:10, "This
is how we know who the children of God are and who the children
of the devil are: Anyone who does not do what is right is
not a child of God; nor is anyone who does not love his brother."
Do the right thing and turn to God. Destroy this horrible
site that has been inspired, not by the Holy Spirit, but by
the devil. Recognize that it is satan who is leading you into
doing such wicked things. The Lord has so much love and mercy,
He does forgive when we repent.
I pray God bless
you and I really believe God loves you because He loved me
and I was really no different than you or anyone else. I didn't
have a website that mocked Jesus and glorified satan, but
everyday, my loyalty and love was to the world, not Him; I
lived in disobedience to Him and wanted to do things my way-
didn't want to live the way He has taught to live-Just like
satan, I wanted to be the lord of my own life...how foolish
I was to think that in only 30 years of living, I knew better
and more than God. In 1 Corinthians 1:18, "For the message
of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but
to us who are being saved it is the power of God." 1 Thessalonians
1:4-6 says, "For we know, brothers loved by God, that he
has chosen you, because our gospel came to you not simply
with words, but also with power, with the Holy Spirit and
with deep conviction. You know how we lived among you for
your sake. You became imitators of us and of the Lord; in
spite of severe suffering, you welcomed the message with the
joy given by the Holy Spirit."
And, as Jesus had promised, Acts 1:8 says, "But you will
receive power when the Holy Spirit comes on you; and you will
be my witnesses..."
Become a bold witness for Christ, we are the real rebels in
this world! You will be in my prayers, normal bob smith!
godschick4lifeptl@hotmail.com
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Dear sweet God's
Chick 4 Life,
What is wrong with you? Are you so brainwashed that you're
no longer capable of even the most basic skills of reason?
I mean, you just stated "You obviously have some amount
of faith or you wouldn't be defending your view so viciously."
Hell, with that
kind of logic it'd be just as clear that you believe that
God and Satan don't exist at all considering how viscously
you insist that they do. You don't even give me the benefit
of the doubt and consider for a second that I don't believe
in super beings. You just leap onto the Non-Christian's-Hate-God
bandwagon and recite all kinds of scripture to me.
Your obedience
to God clearly illustrates what a turn of loyalty from the
world really means. It just seems to be an absolute flushing
of common sense and a blind eye on the reasons another human
being doesn't believe. These are clear anti-social traits
and evidence pointing towards the negative effects of putting
non existent things above humans.
Do you really think
I worship Satan and believe in living sprits inside our bodies,
and the mere shouting of "Praise the Lord!" in an email?
Had you considered even for a moment that you DO have the
power to make your own right decisions without God? "Gasp!
No! Not without GOD!"
You're a 30 year old adult woman! Choosing to do right doesn't
need God! Just do right as best you can, and when you fuck
up don't attribute it to Satan and his blood thirsty lust
for evil, strife and hatred. Blame yourself and then work
hard to not make the same mistake again. These are wonderful
life lessons. Ignoring them is only shortchanging yourself.
God's-Chick-4-Life,
God and Satan don't exist. The relief you feel is simply an
imaginary friend you seem to think you need to do good and
to tell you how to run your life. There is no victory in admitting
you cannot be "lord" of yourself. It's called "Taking full
responsibility for your 30 year old adult actions." But obviously
you know all of this to be true or you wouldn't be defending
your view so viciously.
Are you for real?
Bob
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| “Would
you like to actaully have a scholarly debate on the subject
of heaven and hell?” |
Hey Bob:
Would you like to actaully have a scholarly debate on the
subject of heaven and hell? Or for that matter that Satan
is really a rank and not a being? I would agree with you that
there are a lot of misnomers in Gentile Christianity, but
they are easily cleared up by the Midrash, Pseudopigrapha,
Talmud and other such documents. Really, Christians have no
clue of what they really believe. The Bible by itself is dreadfully
incomplete and the gentile Christians end up making extreme
logical leaps about salvation and everything else.
I do consider myself
a Christian and an informed one and I have read your statements
on your website. Frankly, I grew up the way you did and I
don't blame you for being upset by what you've been taught.
Did you know that Scripture actually says that people who
didn't believe in Jesus went to heaven? Being Mormon, Catholic,
Hindu or anything else does not matter. You can be "saved"
anyway. Did you know that the Gospel of Peter says that all
of humanity will eventually be taken to paradise? Your average
preacher wouldn't tell you that would he?!
There are a lot
of things that most Christians do not know, or you either.
Satan is not God's
archenemy, "they" work for God as a prosecutor. Sammael is
one of the beings you are thinking of. He was the former angel
of death who disobeyed God and would not take the body of
Moses. Shemhazai is another being that is identified with
"Satan." He rebelled and had sex with human women. Lucifer
is the angel who refused to worship man and was cast out of
heaven. The serpent in the Garden was not Satan, by simply
a serpent.
Also, demons are
not Satan's henchmen. They are evil beings created by Man
himself! Man is more powerful than "Satan", we don't need
"Satan" for salvation or anything else. He fears us because
ultimately, we have power over him.
In short, God has
no intention of destroying anyone in the ridiculous ways you
mentioned. Nowhere in scripture does it actually mention an
eternal Hell for anyone excepting the antichrist and his direct
underlings. There is, in fact, enough scripture to refute
the idea that anyone is going to Hell for eternity.
If you have any
questions, feel free to write. I'm a very patient guy...
accounting@pacificurchinproducts.com
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Oh yes, a debate
with you on the precise whereabouts (and whatabouts) of Satan,
his underlings and the Grim Reaper sounds like a very worthwhile
debate indeed. Then, finally we'd be able to straighten all
of these things out and conduct a logical, factual argument
against science and its merciless attack on God's true intentions.
I think that by
you and I working together, we'll be able to weed out all
of the garbagey-gobble-dee-guk and bring together just the
facts from the Midrash, Pseudopigrapha, Talmud and the Gospel
and figure out the true beliefs of Christianity. What a fun
project!
If you could go
ahead and start without me that'd be okay. In fact, I'd prefer
to come into the project late, right near the end actually,
so as not to corrupt the research with my atheistic disrespect
for all that it is, was, and ever will be.
Then, at that point
I'd like to point and laugh at you for being such a gargantuan
waste of useless knowledge.
Thank you.
Bob
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