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Subject: Ready to do your homework???
Be-el-ze-BOb-
Man,
I must admit, you really like to stir up some shit! I looked at
other pages of your content and you absolutely have some damn good
questions that need some real answers. So many Christians take the
Bible word for word. There are a lot of people that say they are
Christians on Sunday and then forget about the other six days of
the week. Most NEVER have the courage to confront a pastor and disagree.
Now, take all of the pastors of the Christian faith. How many are
actually educated theologians? Of this minutia, how many confronted
their teachers? Not many.
As a Christian, I will be the first to admit, I think the recruitment
methods of grandstanding and pushing pamphlets is annoying and cheap.
It is nothing more than a salesman's pitch. If they would just pull
back, and take a look at the big picture! Who would want anything
to do with Christianity if Jesus was on a soap box and screaming
"do this.....or else!" Soul's are won, one on one- and your "free-will"
as well as mine, is the best gift and reason we are here.
If the Bible was a novel, most Christians have just resorted to
only being interested in the last chapter. They think the King James
version is 100% correct, leaving no room for margin of error. I
give you props for confronting them. They should be comfortable
answering your questions and give an earnest response. We need to
know where we came from to get where we are going
I do think we are alike in the arena of truth. Just like in the
movie, the Matrix, we have one of two choices. But if you are like
me, screw the blue pill- let's find answers to these questions and
start waking people up! This approach to life can be applied into
so many other areas as well. People in general, have just forgotten
to think.
Here
are the topics I would like to discuss, but only if YOU are interested:
Dinosaurs(
not as old as one thinks), Giants ( tons of evidence ), Angels (
no hallmark moments here- they kick butt effectively), Myths ( not
really), Lost Books of the Bible ( what most of the narrow minded
Christians ignore), and the land that is now our country in Pre-Columbian
times ( what we were told in school is PURE bullshit).
By
the way, I am an artist as well. You've got the stuff!
Let's do this!
-Respectfully,
David Crain
djcrain@bellsouth.net

Wow
David, finally a cool, laid back Christian who can make sense of
all this kooky stuff for me! What a breath of fresh air this is
gonna be! Where do I begin? I suppose at the beginning, huh? Ha
ha ha ha!
I'm
always so anxious to hear what crazy explanation the random Christian
has for the dinosaurs. Some say that they lived side by side with
mankind during bible times, ha ha ha! While others claim that when
God said He made the earth on the first day and man on the forth
He's actually talking about a day being 150 billion years and that's
where the dinosaurs fit in. I know! I'm like, what?!? And then of
course there are those who claim that it's all just a huge illusion
created by Satan and dinosaurs never existed at all! I love that
one most!
My
favorite part about all of this is that never once does somebody
go, "What a wonderful point. Logically it doesn't equate. I think
that the authenticity of the Bible should be scrutinised because
common sense tells me that this doesn't fit."
Yeah,
so this is gonna be fun! And maybe we'll finally logically explain
the stories in the Bible! Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!!!
Let's
do this!
Bob!
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Subject: I saw
your website
To whom it may
concern:
Needless to say, I'm about as offended as I can get. "Your
prayers did nothing" ?
How would you feel
if, instead of Jesus, we put a picture of, say, your mother
in her final hour? She might be pale, lying in a hospital
bed, hooked up to life support. What if she died a violent
death? What if we show a picture of your mother's dead face,
right after she has been stabbed to death, and allow people
to choose to put on a mustache, sunglasses, lipstick, fangs,
bushy eyebrows...All on your mother's dead face! Like it?
New product idea?
Or, how about a
member of your family such as your child, who has died recently?
Get the idea? Oops! You already got the idea. Oh, that's right,
I got the idea from You!
I do hope you're
taking this personally. That's the only way you will be able
to understand what your company has done. It IS personal.
It's no joking matter.
I do expect a response
from whoever is receiving this e-mail. I will contact someone's
supervisor if I don't receive a reply.
Very Sincerely,
Joe Benson
joseph_benson5@yahoo.com
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Okay, first of
all, I have no idea how you found the site but I didn't send
it to you and that's what I'll tell my supervisor if you contact
him. I'd really think twice about that if I were you. He's
a Christian and I don't think he'd be too happy hearing from
you or seeing the page you saw. Yeah, I think you can see
how that might cause a problem. Okay?
Now, as for killing
my mother and stabbing her in the face and publishing pictures
of the whole event for the world to gawk at, well, I wouldn't
like that at all. But, to tell you the truth, if you did do
that I don't think I'd be so upset that I'd email your boss.
No, come to think about it, I'd recognize your right to free
speech and keep your employer out of it. I'd be concerned
that this might be the way you make your living and wouldn't
want to burden the welfare system any further by getting you
fired.
So, thank you for
the analogy. I can see the similarities but I don't think
I'd take it THAT personal if you did those things (mocked
my dead child, exploited my mother's forensic photos, etc.).
In fact I would commend you on using your right to free speech
and standing up for what's important to us as Americans (freedom
of speech). Like, you'd be a hero... like how I should be
recognized. Heroic.
Bob
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Thanks for getting
back to me. Based on the time stamp of your e-mail, you were
working late. Are you Bob Smith?
Joe Benson
joseph_benson5@yahoo.com
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Yes, it is.
Have you emailed anyone else about this matter?
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not depriving you of your right to free speach. |
No, I haven't emailed
anyone else about this. If you are The Bob, then you are the
owner / manufacturer / boss, isn't that right? In that case,
there is no one above you. You are the top. So, who else would
I email or contact about my displeasure? I've already gone
to the top. My answer is "No". You are not going to discontinue
making the Jesus Dress-up. I already know your position because
you made them in the first place. If you were going to be
considerate of people to whom Christ means something important,
you wouldn't have marketed this idea. I'm not depriving you
of your right to free speach. In order to do that, I would
require the power to make you stop - I don't. Would I if I
could - no.
What you've done
is offensive, not criminal. I can't call you a hero. Opposition
alone does not make what we do heroic. I find no nobility
or honor or benefit to people in what you have done. If you
think Christianity is a lie, it would be heroic to honestly
expose it for a lie. All you're doing is to mock what I hold
as sacred.
Sincerely, Joe
Benson
joseph_benson5@yahoo.com
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Wait, but youuuu
said you were going to contact my supervisor! That was your
claim, not mine! Don't go pushin' it off on me like I'm some
kind of liar! I was just extremely curious as to how you were
going to follow through on that threat and who exactly you
were going to contact. Your scolding, tattle-tale, lecture
of an email really got me wondering who I was really up against.
And how do you
know that I don't already have something I'm working on where
I expose the lie of Christianity? Maybe I do? You don't know.
You're just assuming! So maybe I am a hero and you just haven't
seen what I've done yet?
I dunno. Just speculating.
Bob
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why Jesus. Why not Sadam or Osama or Kerry or Bush or
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So, ok Bob. Who
do I contact next, your mother?? I can't do that. If she read
my example (lecture) she'd be asking for MY mother's e-mail
address. I assumed I was contacting a customer service rep
or someone in a corporate situation. I wanted some kind of
answer. I assumed. I was ticked and did not want to be ignored
by some employee. I wanted the maker of the kit to know I
was ticked. ( one among many ticked people, I imagine ) So,
why Jesus. Why not Sadam or Osama or Kerry or Bush or ....
Hate Christianity? Looking for publicity through controversy
or what?
Joe Benson
joseph_benson5@yahoo.com
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Oh! I chose Jesus
because he was all ready displayed on that cross. It makes
for a perfect display model. It wouldn't make any sense to
put Sadam or Osama or Kerry or Bush on the cross. And having
them just standing there is boring! I didn't realize that
was your only problem with it. I hope I explained it for you.
Bob
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fun with me, are you? |
Having fun with
me, are you? I'm sure you know what my problem is with it.
If you don't want
to answer the question, of course, then I quess our conversation
would only degenerate into a waste of time for us both from
here on.
To be up front
and put away the bullcrap, I would love to find your problem
with Christianity and give you an answer that might lead to
to the same conclusion I have come to - that it's true. But
I find we all choose to believe or disbelieve because we want
to. Simple. No one can talk us in or out - not permanently
anyway.
It's been fun.
Sincerely, Joe
Benson
joseph_benson5@yahoo.com
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Having fun with
you? You bet I am! I've found that's the best defense against
those who shovel the bull crap.
From the very first
flight of man when Jesus went up into heaven, to the final
flight of mankind when they're all finally scooped up by God
from the apocalypse.
From the highest
throne in the Kingdom of Paradise to the deepest depths of
a fiery pit called Hell.
From the very first
Creationist who's tried to prove a ten thousand year old universe,
to the final bumbling excuse that its all illusions of Satan.
From the instant
God's magical sperm impregnated that virgin, to the day when
some other lady will give birth to Him again.
From the very first
day on earth when Adam stood alone with 25 ribs amidst a planet
of unnamed animals & dinosaurs, to the bitter end when that
multi-headed dragon spells our doom.
All of it utter
and complete bull crap at its best. That's the problem with
Christianity. Wouldn't you agree?
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