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Subject: Amazing Strangers page 50

Bob,
Just thought I'd mention that the protestors claiming Turkey is guilty of genocide have a case. During WW1, the Turks slaughtered about a million Armenians. The Turks claimed it was a mere 300,000. The Armenians claim it was 1.5 million. Neutral estimates place the figure around 800,000 people killed. I use a million since it's a nice round number.

The genocide was same as the Nazi holocaust, including concentration camps and government confiscation of the property of the victims.

Needless to say, the Armenians are still a trifle upset over the whole thing.

I don't know about you, but protestors aren't enough to make me want to side with those who commit genocide, even almost a century after the fact.

Lard


Well then, I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree. I'm for genocide and you're against it. So now we just wait and let the people decide who's the hero and who's the goat.

Bob

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Subject: Amazing Strangers page 41

"And the best part is, all the black guys quietly watch him and pretend like they're not impressed. Then after the guy leaves they mock him and make fun, mimicking the arm-slamming sit ups and stuff. ...After he's gone. Have I made my point?"

I'm trying to defend you from a friend of mine who is calling that statement, and you, racist (racist as in hank williams jr, not racist as in lisa lampenelli). But, I'm finding it hard to take it any other way. I really doubt that you're a "if only the south woulda won" kinda guy, you seem to think rationally and probably wouldn't buy into that. I think I'm only having trouble seeing any other meaning that could be put into that because it's something similar to what I, personally, have only heard from racists and rednecks (in Kansas) say. And also I think it's mostly the "Have I made my point" that sounds more like what I've heard around my town.

So, please, please explain what you meant. From all that I've read from and about you, I think my friend is way off. I don't really care what your answer is but I'm just curious and hoping I'm right so I can prove a point to my friend about jumping to conclusions about P.C. shit.

Thanks Bob :)
Michael


Hey Michael

Yeah, tell your friend not to worry. I was with a black person when I wrote that.

Bob

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Subject: Complaint

I think your website is very insulting. How could anybody make fun of jesus like that.

Yancey Ventura


That's a pretty harsh complaint. You do realize that I make my living off of those magnets, right?

Bob


I'm sorry i didn't know, you made a living from that. I am very sorry i just saw it as an insult. But i apologize. I just think it is kind of insulting, but i kind of understand.

Yancey Ventura


I will only accept your apology if you get on your knees and beg my forgiveness and tell Jesus to leave your heart forever.

I'm sorry, but your comment really hurt my feelings.

Bob* * * * * *

“I understand that it is your right to have this cite and say whatever you want because we all have freedom of speech, but I have the freedom to express my opinion too.”

Hello.
My name is Shawna. I would like to express a complaint about your “dress-up Jesus” cite. It is very disrespectful towards Jesus Christ. He does not deserve to be mocked! All he deserves is our praise and thanks for dying to save each and every one of us. I realize that you don’t believe the same way that I do. I feel it wouldn’t be right for me to keep silent while I continually see my Lord and Savior mocked and criticized. I understand that it is your right to have this cite and say whatever you want because we all have freedom of speech, but I have the freedom to express my opinion too. I just wanted to voice my opinion to you. Thanks for taking the time to read this.

God Bless!
A concerned youth
Shawna
shawna@ma.rr.com

No, I'm sorry, but I do not agree with your right to voice your opinion to me. If this were so then that means I would have the right to tell you in return I don't agree with your opinion, and I'm sure you'd agree I don't have the right to tell you I don't agree with your disagreement. Am I right?

So that said I just wanted to tell you you do not have the right to state your opinion to me and I would request you apologize to me for extending beyond your personal rights and oppressing mine.

Thank you in advance.
Bob

“I think you have every right to tell me that you do not agree with my opinion.”

I am sorry if my opinion offended you; however, I am not going to apologize for voicing my opinion. I think you have every right to tell me that you do not agree with my opinion. I’m sorry for bothering you.

God Bless!
Shawna
shawna@ma.rr.com

Well then I have to tell you I am very disappointed by your feedback and I disagree with your feelings on the matter almost entirely. I am also sorry to say I officially have to exercise my rights to oppose your opinion and tell you I disagree with you and your assessment of my beliefs immensely.

I'm so sorry you had to hear this from me but once you exercised your right to disagree with me you left me no choice but to exercise mine without regard to your feelings on the matter. I didn't want it to come to this, Shawna but you really left me no choice. And remember, you said yourself I had the right to state my opinion to you.

Without regret.
Bob

“I’m once again sorry if I was wrong about your beliefs.”

I’m terribly sorry if I was wrong about your beliefs. Please forgive me for my assumption. I just believe that Jesus dying on the cross to save the world from our sins is a very Holy symbol of His suffering and I feel that having people dress Him up in silly outfits lessens the respect of people towards the cross.

I’m once again sorry if I was wrong about your beliefs.

Shawna
shawna@ma.rr.com

Well, as it looks now it seems we are indeed on different sides of the opinion regarding each of our beliefs. However there may be a misunderstanding as to what I meant when I explained how I was going to have to oppose your beliefs and was sorry you made me have to do so. You are correct in assuming my beliefs are what they are, so you saying you're sorry about being wrong about what my beliefs are would be an inaccurate statement. But you saying you're wrong about my beliefs because you think mine aren't correct, well in that understanding of your statement you are correct because my beliefs aren't wrong so I will indeed accept your apology for you having the wrong set of beliefs.

Do you see where the misunderstanding is happening, Shawna? You're saying you apologize for possibly being wrong about what my beliefs are, and I was saying that you saying you're wrong about my beliefs is actually a true statement, because my beliefs are correct so you're wrong about them. Isn't that funny?

I dunno. It just strikes me as amusing that in a round-about kind of way you just apologized for having the wrong belief system! Like, if you read your email a certain way it sorta says, "I believe that Jesus died and saved us from blah blah, but you don't believe that so I apologize for being wrong!"
Haha.

I mean, don't get me wrong. I know what you're trying to say. You're apologizing for possibly assuming my beliefs inaccurately, and you didn't. However I am still going to accept the apology you offered me for you having the wrong set of beliefs!

Oh yeah. And NO TAKE-BACKS!
Bob

“I was absolutely NOT apologizing for having the wrong beliefs!”

I was absolutely NOT apologizing for having the wrong beliefs! Actually, my beliefs about Jesus are 100% correct. Jesus definitely did die on the cross to give us a better life with God by our side and there is history and many facts to prove that my faith is correct. It’s up to you what you believe. If you think my beliefs are wrong that’s fine. It’s up to you where you want to spend eternity, but you can’t say that I was apologizing for having the wrong beliefs because I don’t have the wrong beliefs! I was not saying that I was sorry that I don’t believe the way you do, I was saying that if you were a Christian, I was sorry if I thought you had the beliefs that you apparently do have. Sorry for the miscommunication. I am taking back my apology about your beliefs because you obviously believe the way I thought you did. And that was my only intent for the apology.

Jesus Loves You!
Shawna
shawna@ma.rr.com

Yes, I know. But it SOUNDED like you were apologizing for having the wrong beliefs. Jeesh, I thought I was pretty clear in the last email.

Anyhow, your apology was appreciated. It's refreshing to finally have Christians apologizing to me for a change!

Thank you, Shawna.
Bob

 

“your creativity shines through!”

Hey, saw your hate mail site. Nice…. At least your creativity shines through.

Holly
holly@retherford.us

Well thank you Holly. Visit again often.

Bob

“If you could not insult me during this email that would be great...”

Hey. Hate to bother you again but I do have a relevant question. If you could not insult me during this email that would be great, because this is a real question id like a real answer to.

Even if you don’t believe in God, or that Jesus was his son, or that the Bible is a piece of crap, fine. I can’t change your mind. But, it is a fact that a man named Jesus Christ lived. That fact is in history books, and he preached that everyone should treat each other with love and kindness, which is just common sense…because if you don’t do that then well…things just get bad. Many people believe that Jesus was just a man which I’m guessing is what you believe. But, why do you make fun of Jesus? Even if u don’t believe he did anything FOR you, what did he do TO you? To you he was just a man that lived in the past. Why do this to him?

Holly
holly@retherford.us

It actually isn't proven fact that Jesus existed. There is a lot of evidence out there that points towards the character of Jesus not existing at all during that time period and instead was invented centuries later.

You should watch this video called "The God Who Wasn't There."
That's the link to part 1. Part 2, part 3, part 4, part 5 & part 6 are there on the right side of the page.

Him not existing explains many questions about the bible, like for instance why Jesus didn't write anything for the bible, or anything for any book at all. It also explains why no one wrote about Jesus until many many years after he supposedly died. I mean, if he was as miraculous as everyone says then why didn't anyone write about him at the time? These are the same sorts of ways that other magical gods have been slipped into existance, like Zeus and Thor. They were thought to be real at one time too.

Anyhow, watch those videos if you're really interested in seeing where I'm coming from.
Bob

“How do you believe the universe was formed? And please, don’t say “floating particles” or “big bang” or something like...”

Okay, I understand that you believe in evolution correct? How do you believe the universe was formed? And please, don’t say “floating particles” or “big bang” or something like that because then I’ll just start asking you where the particles came from and then you will say matter and ill say where did the matter come from and it will go on and on and on. And I think we can both agree that that’s pretty annoying. I just wanted your thoughts on that subject. THANKS J

Yeah, but all I’m saying is that there are also a lot of flaws in the theory of Evolution like you believe are in the Bible. A lot of things don’t make sense. There are things in the Bible that don’t make sense as well but hey, you chose yours and I chose mine. Yay us. Yes, many things that the bible claims are…well…iffy. But then again Evolution stems from the belief that we all evolved from a single polyp in the ocean. And yes, it was a polyp. Eventually that polyp came to be everything that you see today. What makes me wonder is how if all of evolution is based on SURVIVAL then how come there are so many colors of the same species of fish? And how come monkeys and humans that lived in the same location didn’t allow the monkeys to evolve? And how did the male and female sexes come to be? Anyway, I realize you wont change your mind and that’s fine, but the reason that I ever emailed you in the first place was to tell you that though I think one way, at least I’m not posting it all over the world and trashing you. I don’t have a HATE THE EVOLUTIONISTS site, and I’m not trashing the atheists… You think what you want and I think what I want. It’s a respect issue. Now, I know you won’t take this site down, its making you a lot of money. But at least you heard what I had to say. Thank you for your time.

Holly
holly@retherford.us

The universe was formed by floating particles and big bang.

Haha! Sorry, I had to do that. It was just too easy. Okay, so anyhow, if I were to ask you where the universe came from I don't want you just to say "God made it" or something like that because then I'll just be asking you where He came from and you will say He's just always been around forever, and I'll say then where did that begin, and it will go on and on and on, and I think we can both agree that that’s pretty annoying. So my answer for you is going to be that if you're going to try and convince me which option sounds more probable then you're up the creek trying to explain that it's just some super guy who's been around forever without ever having been born or without a mom or dad and no childhood or learning process or growing up or starting point or "God Training Courses" or friends & neighbors, or companions or people to talk to or love or anything at all. Just a guy who's been floating around forever by himself then he made all the angels and devils and galaxies and then us.

That's an explanation which sounds like a total cop out. Like if you saw a pretty sunset and instead of learning the science behind why the sun's rays do what they do when they pass through the earth's atmosphere and reflect off of the ocean before they hit the eye's retina and transmit the information to your brain, instead you just say "God made it" and figured that to be enough info for the schoolbooks. That's what you're doing.

For me it's far more believable that there was a lifeless void that might possibly contain heat variations and/or floating particles or perhaps even a complete vacuum that follows all the rules of a blackhole. We do not know the answer to this as of yet, but saying "God made it and loves us" only reeks of wishful thinking.

Bob

“I don’t have a HATE THE EVOLUTIONISTS site”

Yeah, but all I’m saying is that there are also a lot of flaws in the theory of Evolution like you believe are in the Bible. A lot of things don’t make sense. There are things in the Bible that don’t make sense as well but hey, you chose yours and I chose mine. Yay us.

Yes, many things that the bible claims are…well…iffy. But then again Evolution stems from the belief that we all evolved from a single polyp in the ocean. And yes, it was a polyp. Eventually that polyp came to be everything that you see today. What makes me wonder is how if all of evolution is based on SURVIVAL then how come there are so many colors of the same species of fish? And how come monkeys and humans that lived in the same location didn’t allow the monkeys to evolve? And how did the male and female sexes come to be?

Anyway, I realize you wont change your mind and that’s fine, but the reason that I ever emailed you in the first place was to tell you that though I think one way, at least I’m not posting it all over the world and trashing you. I don’t have a HATE THE EVOLUTIONISTS site, and I’m not trashing the atheists… You think what you want and I think what I want. It’s a respect issue. Now, I know you won’t take this site down, its making you a lot of money. But at least you heard what I had to say. Thank you for your time.

Holly
holly@retherford.us

No see, but the problem is that by simply letting everyone believe whatever they want without any sort of questions, or proof, or testing, or logic is that then we'd have people all over who just believed whatever they could make up off the top of their heads. Like, did you know that there are people in Africa and India who believe that having sex with a virgin cures AIDS? And people just let them believe it because they too think that we all should just let people believe whatever things they want without question or criticism, because when people tell them their belief is incorrect it hurts their feelings.

Then there are other people out there who believe that strapping a bomb to themselves and blowing up a bus filled with passengers is how you get to heaven! No kidding! Do you think we should just let those people believe what they want without question because it's polite?

Holly, your beliefs hurt people. Your beliefs do all sorts of things that harm others, like teaching children that faith is more important than logic or science. It also isn't healthy to teach people that you can have any sort of heaven while other people burn in hell. That's obscene to me! And your belief also teaches that people who don't believe what you believe are going to be tortured forever in a pit of tar and boiling blood. That's despicable to me. I hear that and I think you have one of the ugliest beliefs ever! I won't even get into your views on how your God feels about homosexuality, transvestism, Jews, and people who have sex before they marry, or someone who makes an engraven image, or people who try to worship other gods. Your beliefs hurt others so I feel that I have every right to critique and make fun of your hurtful beliefs. Perhaps maybe, just maybe, it'll make you rethink your beliefs and the reasons you believe them and change your mind.

But please, Holly, don't think we'd all be better off if we didn't question people's beliefs and make them explain themselves. If we did what you're saying then stupid religions would be spread all over the world out of control oppressing people who deserve to be free.

Bob

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