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There
has been much talk about being offended here at No.B.S.com.
What
it all boils down to is, if it offends someone should it be permitted?
To most the answer would seem clear.
Now
I've had to first figure out if I've ever been offended (it's such
an overused term lately that it seems to have lost all meaning).
Definition
according to my handy Franklin WordMaster:
"To cause hurt feelings or deep resentment"
Now
every time my feelings have been hurt it's been from someone that
I care about. I don't even think that "feeling offended"
exists between two parties who are not personally acquainted.
Yet here are a multitude of responses to JesusDressUp
and they are all offended (feelings having been hurt).
Following
are reactions after the site was posted on CyberGrrlz by
moderator Irina Wolf.
Keep in mind that little girls are probably offended more easily
than any real person would be.
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was so uncallled for. i'm not usually an offended Christian
but that was uncalled for. I like CG the way it is, non offensive
to others, but if you know something is going to offend people,
why do you post it? another thing, fi ou don't know why it's
offensive, its because Jesus is the symbol of purity. He died
on the cross wearing only the scarf (for obvious reasons) and
the crown of thorns. Dressing him is like saying "he's naked
and that's a sin" but being naked isn't a sin, Adam and Eve
had no clothes when they started out, it is only society who
deemed these rules. |
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that site is sick, and it strikes at the basis of compassion
in today's society. The problem is not with Jesus being dressed
up, the problem is that they used the image of him hanging from
the cross. Why not just use a crime scene photo, or photos of
rape victims? Wouldn't that be funny? What about pictures of
little Jon Bennet Ramsey after she was killed? You could dress
her up, that would be funny right? No?!? Why not? What about
dressing up Joan of Arc as she's burning at the stake? You could
put celebrity faces over her burned flesh to cover her charred
face. That's gotta be worth some laughs right? No? Why? Then
why is the torture and murder of an innocent man funny?!? How
anyone could find a picture about dressing up a murdered man
funny is beyond me. If this was a picture of Jesus ALIVE and
being dressed up, I would have no problem with it. The fact
that the person used a picture of Jesus being tortured to death
is sickening. This has nothing to do with Christians at all.
This is simply a matter of someone having a sick mind. How anyone
could find pleasure in the pain and death of another human being
is beyond me. Regards |
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if I didn't worship Jesus, I think I would be uncomfortable.
I'm not black, but I would certainly be VERY uncomfortable and
angry if someone posted a hate site, or a swastika or something
like that. That was my thought. He's dying, freakin nailed to
a piece of wood, and people are laughing? Even if it wasn't
Jesus...but some other person being crucified, it would be just
as disgusting (the devil suit got to me purely on a religious
level). |
| Ok,
I know it was my own fault for clicking it. I said that already.
I just think that was disrespectful to post something that you
knew would be offensive to people. What if someone here thinks
child abuse is funny? Or slavery? What if they posted a link
to a site that mocked something so tragic as Christ's death?
People would get pissed off, I guarantee it, so why do it? Cuz
you think it's funny? |
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the person behind the site is irrelevant. Remember, what it
all boils down to is... "Perception is reality." My statements
are based on my perception of the website. Heck, for all I know
the person behind the site could be a devout Christian. Look
at Jesus Christ Superstar (the musical). It was written by two
'non-believers' and ended up becoming a celebrated musical.
The difference is that Jesus Christ Superstar is a representation
of the life of Jesus. That site is not. |
| I'm
offended as a HUMAN. Personally I could care less WHO was being
tortured and killed on the wooden cross in that picture. Whether
DarkPierce believes Jesus ever existed is up to him. My contention
is that the person depicted on that page was a HUMAN BEING.
When did society become so callous and cold that they would
find humour in the degradation of a man being tortured to death?
When did the respect for human life carry so little meaning
that we could trivialize the ritualistic murder of a human being?
Whether anyone believes the person was Jesus makes no difference.
Whether you are a Christian makes no difference. What bugs me
is that some of the same people who laughed at that site are
people who think abortion is murder. They say they believe 'all
life is sacred'. Well those people are hypocrites in my eyes.
Personally I was saddened when I saw that people here thought
it was funny. I expected more compassion for human life from
people here. It looks like I was mistaken. |
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| "...it
is not productive to be anyone's adversary." |
Bob:
I don't know
you personally nor will I judge you for you "material". Everyone
is entitled to his/her own opinion or views. Although it is
your first amendment right to post your opinions or speak
your thoughts, it is not your "right" to offend anyone if
they have not invoked disrespect onto you. It is simply out
of "respect" that one should not insult or degrade their moral/religious/
or civic beliefs, something that you may want to consider.
Afterall, it is not productive to be anyone's adversary. Don't
you think, Bob?
Just
like I do not partake in "heterosexual parades", nor should
I have to be exposed to the beliefs or rights of a homosexual.
That person has all the right to practice whatever sexuality
he/she may prefer, however, they do not have the right to
impose their view onto me, as you do not have the right to
impose your view onto anyone else, unless they are asked of
you. Your views imposed on my personal beliefs and I am writing
this letter because it is my reciprocating right to do so.
In light of this, If I may make a suggestion, try not to instigate
or impose upon another...It's just not nice. And by the way,
if you consider yourself above and beyond anyone, try joining
MENSA. They just love to laugh at douche bags like yourself
who think they're intelligent! Thanks for reading.
HP
Safetymanhp@cs.com
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HP
(I wouldn't sign my name to that
letter either)
I was very pleased to receive your email this morning. To see someone
break it down so simply answered a lot of questions I'd been having.
It is only now that I realize I do not have have the first
amendment right to offend anyone if they do not invoke disrespect
onto me.
I believe
that it is the lack of adversaries in your life that has left your
brain so stagnant.
So let me
get this straight,
In your world, people
are not allowed to offend each other (without just cause) and anyone
having infringed on those rights (by the act of offending) should
be fined or even arrested, depending on the level of offense the
victim feels. If people would just learn to accept without question
(for penalty under the first amendment offending law) then this
world would be more productive (no adversaries) and our society
would then truly evolve.
I think your vision
of how the world should be is neat.
Oh yes,
if there's one thing that I never want to be described as, it's
"nice".
Thank you
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| "...I
can show you the scriptures to back it up." |
I
can see what you mean about the horror of people going to
hell. There is much condemnation in the Christian world and
none of it is from God. It is from demonic forces deceiving
the Christians. God is a God of love only and I can show you
the scriptures to back it up. I will not be long winded but
only hit a few high points. Everyone from Adam to now are
children of God and has and will live with God. God only looks
at the heart people. Anuone who said in their heart that there
must be a greater one because of the beautiful life on earth
is with God. Your Mormon friend is very well with God also.
The only people who may have not been with God are the ones
who do not want to be with God. God also wants them with him
but there is little he can do if one does not want to be with
God. The old testament saints first went to Hades which was
composed of a paradise and hell. There was a gulf between
these two chambers ant they stayed in paradise until Jesus
rose from the grave. I do not blame your anger to the Christian
world. There is one Church that teaches God does not Condemn
us and he only loves us. It is the Word Of Faith movement
Churches. Hope you can see the truth in His
love
Kenneth
Kjramagost@aol.com
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Hold on
a second! Are you telling me that there's scripture on all
of this stuff? I had no idea that such strong evidence was backing
your beliefs.
In the past
I've had friends turn into Christians. After that, all they could
do was quote scriptures to me. Everything that came out of their
mouths was read out of some book. It can be very annoying. They
all acquired that same one-track tone to their words that you have.
"God wants you with him.... God loves you... God will send
you to hell..."
There wouldn't be a conversation that didn't involve God. By the
way, did you know that you said "God" a dozen times in
your 1 email to me?
I'm not
impressed with your "deer in the headlights" explanation.
I'll just stick to what I believe and you should go see a therapist
about your obsessive/compulsive thing you got goin' on there.
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do not show any care for my feelings." |
"deer in the headlights"
Sorry
do not understand. You asked about what happen to people who
died in the old testament and I answered. You saye you love
people. Seems to me you just want to be mean. You do not show
any care for my feelings, so I wonder how much you care for
anyone.
Kenneth
Kjramagost@aol.com
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Oh Kenneth,
Your hurt feelings are not my problem. Be a man. It's a God damn
email.
Your God-talk was boring me and I do not appreciate your attempts
to convert me.
I do not love people like my grandmother loves Hummels. You've missed
my point entirely.
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OK
Kenneth
Kjramagost@aol.com
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